I am pretty nice in being slick when dealing with sales reps. Well, this is because I used to be 1 myself. So I suppose how to go head to head with them & make sense. I was able to recently talk down this heating, ventilation & A/C dealership into selling myself and others a brand new, modern & pretty darn costly heating, ventilation & A/C plan for almost half off what they correctly charge for it. It took a lot of wheeling & dealing. And then it took myself and others a little bit of lying in a way to trick the heating, ventilation & A/C sales rep into believing that these brand new & modern central heating & cooling units were cheaper elsewhere, and of course they did not want to lose a potential sale & wanted to keep a reputation up, so this is where our slick system came into play. I tricked them real good! And I got away with this beautiful brand new & modern central heating, ventilation & A/C plan component for almost half off the official price. I will never let any of our personal family & friends suppose what I did & how I did it, or they would look down upon myself and others for being dishonest to get the discount. But after all, what do you know sales are? Most are always dishonest to some extent. It is all a con game, however even with central heating, ventilation & A/C plan units!